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CrushedSO
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Re: I got a number from a stripper.......

Post by CrushedSO » Sun Jul 22, 2018 9:04 pm

JohnDeux wrote:
Sun Jul 22, 2018 7:23 pm
CrushedSO wrote:
Sun Jul 22, 2018 4:25 pm
A few short years ago, I would have been ranting away just like anonymous. Now I have real empathy for you, and even some for anonymous. The political rift between us would have blinded me. You see it everywhere. Political polarization where each side dehumanizes the other. Ad hominem attacks where each side feels they’re the victim.

CrushedSO, I do believe you are ready for some Paul Shepard ;) : (apologies to other readers for posting his stuff so much)

"....the open ecstasy of the child has its special purposes: a kind of cataloging, preconscious order finding, and cryptic anthropomorphizing that have to do with personality development--at least for the child with a good mother bond. The poorly bonded child, even though troubled, goes through this nature-wonder period, for it is a new "maternal" reality and perhaps is therapeutic. In any case, there is no figurative nature for the child; all is literal. Even in pretending, there is only one reality. The children playing delightedly on the green grass or in awe at an owl in the woods will grow up oblivious to the good in nature if they never go beyond that momentary fascination. When, as adults, they will weigh the literal value of the owl (already realized, for it taught them the name and owlness) against other literal values, such as replacing the forest with a hospital, a sewage system, or an oil well, their judgment is likely to be for progress. With poor initial mother symbiosis, with an inadequate or lackluster place-and-creature naturizing, or without the crucial adolescent religious initiation that uses the symbiotic, literal world as a prefigured cosmos, the adult cannot choose the forest and the owl. The self is still at the center of a juvenile reality. It may be true that the purpose of the childlike pleasure in the outdoors is an end in itself; it is also necessary to the further work of the self going beyond the self.

But I have oversimplified the choices in order to make a point. There is not a choice between the owl and the oil well at all. In our society those who would choose the owl are not more mature. Growing out of Erik Erikson's concept of trust versus nontrust as an early epigenetic concern and William and Claire Russell's observation that the child perceives poor nurturing as hostility--a perception that is either denied and repressed (as among idealists) or transferred in its source so as to be seen as coming from the natural world instead of from the parents (as among cynics)--there arises an opposition that is itself an extension of infantile duality. Fear and hatred of the organic on one hand, the desire to merge with it on the other; the impulse to control and subordinate on one hand, to worship the nonhuman on the other; overdifferentiation on one hand, fears of separation on the other--all are two sides of a coin. In the shape given to a civilization by totemically inspired, technologically sophisticated, small-group, epigenetically fulfilled adults, the necessity to choose would never arise." -- Paul Shepard, 'Nature and Madness'.
http://www.primitivism.com/nature-madness.htm

[Edit: Ooops, I thought there was a reference to pole dancing in there somewhere....that must have been a different excerpt!... :ymcowboy: ]
Thanks John! I will definitely look into Paul Shepherd!

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Re: I got a number from a stripper.......

Post by Rocinante » Sun Jul 22, 2018 10:10 pm

CrushedSO wrote:
Sun Jul 22, 2018 9:02 pm
I’m making a huge assumption here, but it seems the more militant a person is to any external cause (political, religious etc), the more obsessed and unconscious they are to themselves. Hence the shadow stuff mentioned above when people become militant or zealots.
Aw yeah, I see. As an older person in this community, I've found that I'm often assigned to have heart-to-heart talks with other men on "the left" about problematic behaviour, or their personal lives. So yes, sometimes, that is the case. The more people are dogmatic, rigid, authoritarian etc., the more something seems "off" with them in their personal lives. (Not quite the same thing as "militant" to me, which is positive.)

Most of these folks alienate others, and I'd like to think they don't last long and see themselves to the door, and they don't, but unfortunately, they cause a lot of damage and burnout in other people on the way out. My line on this is that "just because you're volunteering, don't think that we can't fire or recall you, or at least put you in the penalty box for a while."

People who we suspect have wandered into our movements because they're acting out a weird psychodrama (which usually involves drawing a lot of attention to themselves within the movement, acting out, crying when their proposals aren't listened to, being extremely dogmatic or manipulative etc), either have to be ejected or they wreck the group. They tend to be so disruptive to the normal functioning of meetings, making plans, doing research, organizing teach-ins and other events, and so on, that you can't help but wonder if they're a police plant or an infiltrator sent by interests on the other side (c.f. the case of Brandon Darby).

This is why we tell them sooner or later to get lost. They basically drive others away, and the easiest way to disband a social movement is to allow a lot of internal strife to flourish. Hardly anyone quits because a goal is too hard. People quit in droves, on the other hand, if the behaviour of the "comrade" fighting beside them becomes intolerable.
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Re: I got a number from a stripper.......

Post by JohnDeux » Sun Jul 22, 2018 10:17 pm

Rocinante wrote:
Sun Jul 22, 2018 10:10 pm
.... the easiest way to disband a social movement is to allow a lot of internal strife to flourish.
Which, from reading, reflected rule #1 among most Native American (First Nation) tribes when at their best: If you cause disharmony within the tribe, yer out.... It wasn't perfect, but as Daniel Quinn has opined, it was "damned hard to improve upon".
"Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain...."~ The Wizard of Oz

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Re: I got a number from a stripper.......

Post by Rocinante » Sun Jul 22, 2018 10:25 pm

JohnDeux wrote:
Sun Jul 22, 2018 10:17 pm
Which, from reading, reflected rule #1 among most Native American (First Nation) tribes when at their best: If you cause disharmony within the tribe, yer out.... It wasn't perfect, but as Daniel Quinn has opined, it was "damned hard to improve upon".
haha! That's awesome. I'm going to steal that quote, thanks. :))
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Re: I got a number from a stripper.......

Post by JupiterTaco » Mon Jul 23, 2018 10:58 am

I'm probably not going to add any more to this thread, I just want to say, that I get very triggered when it comes to politics, so my apologies for that. I spent my whole life with others' political beliefs being shoved down my throat so I don't take too kindly anymore to unwelcome political comments. My family had both political extremes and it was hell. This was also one of the big reasons I got back off of Facebook. I hope that one day I can get to the point where I can remember that everyone has their own beliefs/wants, etc. I really don't think I have a problem there, but nevertheless that's how I probably sound when I complain about other people's political obsessions. But there's something really controlling and trollish about people who insist on shoving their values down everyone else's throats. So there does come a time where one asks themselves, is my being triggered my issue or is someone else deliberately being an ass?
"How can I believe when this cloud hangs over me, you're the part of me that I don't want to see"-Forget It-Breaking Benjamin

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Re: I got a number from a stripper.......

Post by LostAgain » Tue Jul 24, 2018 8:41 pm

This thread has really gone off piste.WOW.
A halfwit writes in asking if it is wise to ask a stripper if she is an escort,with a view to asking if she is a hooker,with a view to asking if she will blow some of his cobwebs away.
A random list of political zeitgeists is thrown into the mix and 'Boom' we are trying to precis our worldviews.
Fantastic.Love it.
My advice to him is to buy a box of tissues and spend a quiet night in.
Meanwhile I have to dash as my Anarcho=Syndicalist comrades get frightfully shirty if I am even a little bit late. =)) :ymdevil:

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Re: I got a number from a stripper.......

Post by Anonymous007x » Sun Aug 12, 2018 2:54 am

Update fellow comrades! So I asked her if she did "private sessions" and bam! We met up,I rented a motel, and holy shit was she amazing in bed.
She was quite ballsy because she asked me If I wanted to "play" with her in the backseat of my car in the middle of the parking lot lol, though the parking lot was quite empty, it's not my thing to get arrested for "indecent exposure" as well so she suggested the motel. Now I'm one of her weekly clients.

My dreams/fantasies have fucking come true! I always fantasized about fucking a gorgeous-hot escort every week and at the age of 21-years-old here I am! This is so much fun! Especially since all of the girls I fucked were so vanilla they never wanted to do other things that I liked such as anal sex. And the thrill of it being illegal is so exhilarating!

I am now officially addicted to sex with this escort now. Prostitution can be quite addicting yet so much fun! Now, I need to ask her if she can arrange a three-some with one of her escort "friends." Now the downside to this is my minor paranoia of everywhere go when I see a cop I think I'm going to get arrested. Now, that's fine when we're having one of our sessions as it's half the fun which makes it so thrilling. But the paranoia is now pervasive in my everyday life now.
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Re: I got a number from a stripper.......

Post by Idiotic » Sun Aug 12, 2018 9:38 am

So i was right about Anon being a kid :|
Boy...youre gonna carry that weight, carry that weight, a long time - Golden Slumbers(The Beatles)

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Re: I got a number from a stripper.......

Post by Anonymous007x » Tue Aug 14, 2018 2:23 am

Idiotic wrote:
Sun Aug 12, 2018 9:38 am
So i was right about Anon being a kid :|

I'm 21-years-old, I'm not a kid lol.
I fear no God, I fear no man, I fear no hell, I seek no heaven, I have no heroes, I have no Faith, I am a Nihilist.

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Re: I got a number from a stripper.......

Post by Idiotic » Tue Aug 14, 2018 6:14 am

Anonymous007x wrote:
Tue Aug 14, 2018 2:23 am
Idiotic wrote:
Sun Aug 12, 2018 9:38 am
So i was right about Anon being a kid :|

I'm 21-years-old...
Exactly
Boy...youre gonna carry that weight, carry that weight, a long time - Golden Slumbers(The Beatles)

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